Fandt lige lidt førstehånds indtryk omkring P1 og 918 på PH.
Han virker som en rimelig konverteret person efter at have prøvet sådan en 918.
Glæder mig sgu til at se hvad de mener om den hos EVO, Topgear og Car. Og så Drive og MonkeyHarris selvfølgelig
[quote=wtdoom]Friends , Romans , Countrymen LEND ME YOUR EARS .
I apologise in advance for being somewhat drunk so if there is some gobbledigook among the text please bear with me .
Please remember the Carrera gt is my god and UNTILL I DROVE THE BUGGER I hated the idea of the 918 , hated it .
I have followed the 918 and P1 since day 1 . I have been lucky enough to meet engineers , experience the cars , ask questions , etc etc ( I am convinced they had me confused with someone else but I just went along with it ! Who wouldnt ?)
The 918 and P1 are in fact very similar . The thing is the 918 is superior in cooling of the batteries and energy recovery to the P1 imho . They both recover energy when lifting off the throttle and the engine can produce More power than you ask for to charge the battery . The difference is the 918 can also regenerate on the brakes ( a massive deal ) and in certain conditions I believe one of the 2 "electric machines " can be used as a generator .
So if the 918 suffers the P1 will suffer more .
I drove the 918 in the Race Hybrid *(1) setting . Here After 30 mins on track I had more power than when I started . The regeneration is amazing . In "hot lap " you are allowed to use more of the power more of the time and a higher percentage of e power can be used to complete a hot lap . You can theoretically run the battery dry in this mode but its easy enough to drop into a lower mode for certain portions of the track ( to regenerate more power ) if you deem it necessary . The full blown "hot lap mode " is worth less than 4 seconds over the entire lap of the ring .
If you look at Lieb he turns into a lower setting to regenerate more on the straight ( almost as if preparing for a second lap ) . It is arguable that perhaps it would have been faster to keep extra power for the straights and drop a little for more of the twistier bits . Remember lieb has publicly stated the car could have gone faster and he " did not push like a qualifying lap " and still shattered the production car record . FYI 3 drivers and 2 cars were used , ALL got below 7 . This shows the ability of this car .
The 918 has shattered the ring record , ironically this is the track where it SHOULD in theory do the worst . Somewhere like SPA or Silverstone it will be a serious weapon . The braking zones and non 100 per cent throttle areas will allow the engine charging and the brake regeneration ( something the p1 cant do ) to work wonders . Im afraid to tell you my poor carrera gt would get annihilated . The car would be awesome ( like it was at leipzig ) putting down 900 pound feet of mostly instant torque , FIRING you out of corners with 4wd , 4ws and TV all working at once . It just changes everything .
Lets get onto another thing I do not have the vocabulary to express . The real world driving scenario . The car is shocking in the grip it generates , shocking .
I donât know about you but I go to trackdays either with a group of mates or to meet a group of mates in similar performing cars . The friendly competition , the banter and the fun are what makes a a trackday . Theres no fun in turning up to a track with a million pound car and going so much faster than your friends , that sounds just terribly boring to me ( and Iâm sure the majority of you ).
Lets be honest these are ultimate cars , not JUST track cars .
Where the 918 will absolutely annihilate the competition is the real world . Bear with me here . Traction control systems and tyres have gone a long way in recent years but I defy you to tell me that a 2 wd car on real roads ( with their dodgy cambers , broken surfaces and full of civilians) can hold a candle to this monster in a saville row suit with 4wd , the most advanced torque vectoring ever seen , 4 wheel steering , and the ability to instantly fire all that torque to that amazing 4wd drive train . Just imagine what will happen in the wet , murder on the dance floor I tell you ! Murder !!!!!
The F12 already struggles with a mere hp figure of just over 700 , what will these 900 hp monsters be like ?
The Porsche is just the most well thought out car . I was down for a P1 but after going out in one recently I cancelled my order . It cant hold a candle to the 918 on build quality , engineering integrity , development , beauty or even ethos imho . The mac is in danger of becoming a one trick pony with a stripped out interior and is if I am brutally honest it is a 12C PLUS . That is to say a 12C with everything improved .
The 918 is a bespoke , perfectly engineered jewel . It is Porsches Veyron , luxurious ( burmester sound system , leather , every mod con imaginable , etc etc ) and yet can be devastating on track . I believe cars of this price SHOULD be able to do everything . If you wanted to be JUST fast on track buy a 911 RSR . These supercars should be able to take you to the south of france , across europe , classic le mans and to meet your track or race car at spa or monza . The 918 can do this and is also a spyder when you want it to be , it really is a do it all car .
I dont know enough about La ferrari to comment but I soon will .
I truly do not understand how Mclaren have the nerve to charge me so much more than a 918 for the P1 when it is so close to a 12c . Its borderline insulting .
I was told that "a couple of the p1 prototypes have done 15 000 miles " an amazing figure in this category of car , especially when spread across a few cars but then I heard the Porsche was over a million and suddenly it didnât seem so impressive . I know the 918 will have gone through every test the humble boxster has had to endure , heat , dust , altitude , cold , crash , etc etc Im not so sure about the competition .
If you look through my early opinions of the 918 here and on teamspeed , I mock it as a glorified Prius . I am a complete convert now , If you want a do it all super sports car , it is the 918 spyder a gorgeous , perfectly engineered car , fast on track and on the road in all conditions . The fact that Porsche will support you as technology improves and batteries get lighter ( and more powerful !) is just the icing on the cake .
I think the systems on the LPM1 race car we will see soon will have a lot in common with this car .
Underestimate this car at your peril .
The 918 is a game changer , how stupid of me to doubt that it wouldnât be !
One more thing Porsche already made the perfect , manual , raw , drivers car in the carrera GT . If thats what you want , BUY ONE OF THEM !
I am at your service to answer any questions I can but I warn you my consumption of alcool is increasing at a geometric rate and things may get a little strange .
*(1) RACE HYBRID SETTING :
The combustion engine is always in operation. The electric machines are allowed to deliver their maximum available power, which further enhances the e-boost effect. A higher proportion of the power generated by the combustion engine goes into recharging the battery. Gearshifts are extremely fast and sporty and the torque potential of the engine is optimally exploited. This enables superlative performance for equally superlative lap times on the racetrack.
*(2)HOT LAP SETTING :
When you press the Hot Lap button in Race Hybrid mode, the maximum energy potential of the high performance hybrid battery is harnessed to help you achieve the fastest possible lap time. On the Northern Loop of the Nürburgring it could mean shaving around four seconds off your best time.[/quote]
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